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SNOCRUISE
"Snofleet" EVOLUTION COMMENTS
-
Have a look, our fleet of
Saskatchewan based snowmobiles slowly evolved
as the years went by.
- In the early years we had a small
fleet of 10 year old Yamahas. .
- A short term lease of some Polaris
Indy Lites soon put the benefits
of Independent front suspension on
the map for us.
- We purchased several Polaris Indy's
that were 1 year old leaseback's out of
Yellowstone National Park
thru Recreation Supply Co in Saskatoon.
- Then I saw a a new 1995 Ski-Doo
brochure that featured the new long travel Formula SL 500. This was a
no-brainer in many respects because "more
suspension" on an "entry level" snowmobile was unheard of. Those
were interesting years where thru the last part of the 90's the
manufactures "bean counters" disallowed then allowed multiple
fasteners on the suspension mounting points! We bought new year
after year in those days
just to keep the
warrantee up to speed on suspensions, their components (shocks,
front arms, rear scissors, rails...you name it and it was replaced
on some models
over and over. It was clear the suspensions were getting put to the
test!
- It was soon apparent that the next
step was Liquid cooled models, yes it is true they were a bit
heavier but when you considered the HP was double
that of a comparable fan air cooled....we you know the story just
by looking at our chart would you rather your "metal" piston engine
run at 140 degrees or 450 degrees?
- The race was on to supply our
rental customers with a snowmobile that was dependable and with enough
power to keep up even with the big dogs if
pressed.
Kept in a high state of tune with good carbides, a 500cc
liquid cooled snowmobile
was cats ass where we come from.
- These snowmobiles mechanically were
good, down the road preference
started to go towards the machines
that did not require any extensive
maintenance.
Snowmobiles that required a ski alignment or worse a frame pull, after every
rental, were losing favor with us. And it wasn't just us.
Inadvertently customers
who had guests or friends on their rental and we are talking nice
folks but folks that disregarded bumping into "stuff" that would
constantly tweak the
spindles and associated steering gear. That was the minor stuff, the
worst was when trailing arms would get wiped out along with some
other front
suspension parts and to boot some models had the whole tunnel or
chassis folded up or rolled up like the lid on a can of tuna. Not
Good.
- ATTRITION...this
is where the rubber meets the road, in a stock car race or some sort
of a "24 Hour Lemans" endurance race, attrition is the equipment
in motion that fails the test. The sleds that we kept long term, were kept for a reason. For
instance in 100,000 Kms of usage, our PROACTION chassis's ski
alignments... in over 20 years I used to be able to
count them on one hand, used to be able to recite them exactly. 1 maybe 2
were my own solid hand/wrist jarring hits. "Frozen lump" and "tree
stump" (97 and
99?). The one where the rental customer dude missed the barn door
and hit the barn with the skis cranked! Probably 1 or so on
aggressive cross
country tours
Crossing
the
Ice
blocks on the
Saskatchewan River. After clipping the an ice block one machine
dropped into an icy cavern, after
extraction, we stopped and gave it a ski alignment on the trail.
Some chassis designs required a ski alignment every other
weekend. What is really bad is many machines manufactured in
2003 and up require complete front clip changes on just about every
bump and hit....instead of a ski alignment...unbelievably they
require the front frame section to be replaced so it continues to
align up with the back track and suspension "tunnel mounting"
section. You might poke around slowly with the kids and a sleigh in
the front yard with a snowmobile that is "Zee"ed
and dog tracking...but....LOL Hit a bump at speed with the boys on a
curve
and spring board yourself into the trees...LOL That is something to
think about.
- More
POWER reliability and consistency was some of the earliest
considerations. Sure we could of seek out a 700 model that
definitely has more power, BUT... but, is a big word. To put it in a
nutshell we do not want a model with a limited lifetime. Where at
xxx number of miles she is kaput, broken, wore out, "done like
dinner", surely you would have to know where I am going here.
Snowmobiles to some degree are largely disposable. For
an
example you do not buy a snowmobile and plan to put 100,000 miles or
KM's on it, then hand it down to your neibour or son to roll the
odometer over a second time. This is not going to happen, on the
other extreme end of the scenario we could compare the snowmobile to
a Baja cross country desert racer. A racer with "long travel"
suspension that works unusually hard in a tough cross country
environment and range of temperatures separating day from night.
Where the driver pushes the machine harder than one would think is
humanly possible. Where the rubber meets the road they require
constant maintenance not only in between races but also during the
race in between fuel stops. This reminds me exactly why I walked
away from "snowmobiling" in the 70's. It was repair for 2 hours then
ride for 1 hour! OMG, you know it is a certain breed of
enthusiasts that have evolved and survived this sport! Even the most
reliable snowmobiles require that look over and constant checking
for signs that one component
or another is wearing, prematurely, unevenly, defectively,
environmentally, or the worst kind of problem...by your own hand
(
*
). Small
details that are engineered in that you simply are not aware of. You
have to remember the snowmobile was from the beginning mostly
derived in the agricultural industry from left over agricultural
parts. Shape a sheet of metal or two, punch some holes in it from
side to side, slide in some shafts to drive a track of sorts, mount
an engine, thread and weld up some tubing for steering...kinda
sounding like an early combine huh? You know what I mean! Then
combine that (no pun intended!) with a ridged chassis that is strong
doesn't shake apart or come unglued evertime you experience a hard
hit in the back country.
SOMETHING WE DIDN'T EXPECT,
WHEN WE BOUGHT 600's & 700
Redhead Triples.
- Exceptional
overall reliability was a given, if you follow the sport at all,
even if the Yamaha simply was not your favorite ride, you would have
to be an "ostrich" with your head in the sand, not to know that the
Yamaha Triple is synonymous with reliability. The
Redhead Triple is time
proven, good on fuel, easy on the related components, a wonderfull
sound to the ears, just a great design, and is designed to be "in
it for the long run", a triple that has
smaller more evenly spaced combustion pulsations, than a big twin
when each cylinder fires. This results in less wear and tear in the
engine, it's self, the clutch, and for that matter to some degree
every component down the line until you get to the track! It would
be pretty hard to say the track would last longer but you get the
idea. While it is true you can break anything, old fuel that has "0"
octane, fuel that is laden with green bacteria, plugged carburetors
or out of balance neglected clutches can kill the engine. So how did
it fail?"
- Economy
the fuel economy story...rarely is economy
discussed, expect bragging rights at every fuel stop! Mind you
the guy getting the best gas mileage and who is burning the most gas
at every stop is likely having the most fun!!
Rather than discuss fuel mileage, we more
often
discuss the mileage between stops at
SNOCRUISE
in the Saskatchewan prairies,
because we ride such large variety of cross-country snow
conditions. While on
TOUR
we are more concerned with the relative location of
Small towns
with fuel service in our riding area. But under
TRAIL RIDES
ARCHIVES we tabulate fuel usage for
fun at most stops. Look for an "F" added to our snowmobile "TRAIL
RIDES" Archives.
PROJECTS: EVERY SNOWMOBILE IS A
"PROJECT"
?
-
Projects,
did you hear me say that
every snowmobile is to some degree is a project? brand new? or used?
every snowmobile is a
PROJECT of sorts. A
Project to add
accessories that will personalize your ride, or simply equip your
sled for the type of riding that you do. You will see in our sleds
detail under
"SNOCRUISE
TOUR
SLEDS" that
we equip our snowmobiles for the back country
that we ride in. Some snowmobiles are
Projects the day you
bring it home, there have been cases where some manufactures have
figured this out before the snowmobile made it to market and citing
"Good Customer Service" shit canned the model before delivery. A
good
example of this is the 1982 Yamaha SRX 500 introduced to replace the
"high maintenance" 1981 440 SRX. A few examples of the 500 SRX had
been discovered abandoned somewhere in Alaska the final test....shit
happens, it is learning from your mistakes, or the mistakes of
others that you succeed. It seems not all manufactures use that
philosophy. Here is a couple links to the SRX that was made but
didn't "make it."
-
Projects,
back to
Projects, incase you hadn't
noticed snowmobiling "for me" it has been a mixed bag,
first of utmost importance snowmobiling with reliable "breakdown
free equipment", stock OEM configurations that are "tuned" for the
environmental (geographical + atmospheric) conditions that exist in
our riding area.
- HERE WE ARE!! The
hobby, and hands on approach that I have had all my life caught me
buying basket cases and with some elbow grease and the right
combination of salvage, resurrecting, and creating models that were
never produced by the manufacture of my choice. Enjoy
the links to my
PROJECTS .
www.snocruise.com
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SNOCRUISE
"Snofleet" EVOLUTION CHART
Model |
H.P. |
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1991 |
Sabercat
700,128 |
140HP |
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BlueMax
700,141 |
115HP |
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8,700KM |
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Project
7,800KM |
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SR
7
700,136 |
115HP |
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3,000KM |
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"Silver"
700,121 |
115HP |
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8,000KM |
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Project
5,000KM |
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XTC-P
700,121 |
115HP |
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5,000KM |
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Project
3,100KM |
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SXT
700,121 |
115HP |
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8,900KM |
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Project
7675KM |
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600
PrairieMax,141 |
100HP |
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3,300KM |
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Project
2,700KM |
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600
DLX,121 |
100HP |
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3,300KM |
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Project
3,500KM |
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600SX
DLX,121 |
100HP |
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2,700KM |
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Project
1,600KM |
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Prairie
JACK 600
136 |
95HP |
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12,000KM |
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Project
10,000KM |
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F-5
, 128 |
105HP |
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14,000KM |
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XTC
500,121 |
90HP |
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3,300KM |
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SXR 500,121 |
90HP |
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6900KM |
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1,800KM |
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XTC
500,121 |
90HP |
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11,300KM |
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2,400KM |
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SX
500,121 |
90HP |
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8,500KM |
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XT 500,121 |
90HP |
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6900KM |
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XT 500,121 |
90HP |
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8400KM |
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500 XC SP,121
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92
HP |
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8,000KM |
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2,000KM |
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SuperSport550,121 |
66.7 HP |
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Phazer
500,
121 |
61.8
HP |
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Model |
H.P. |
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2019 |
2018 |
2017 |
2016 |
2015 |
2014 |
2013 |
2012 |
2011 |
2010 |
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2008 |
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1994 |
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1992 |
1991 |
XT 500,121 |
90HP |
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16,000KM |
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Indy 500,121 |
74
HP |
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8,000KM |
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3,500KM |
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Totaled off1,200KM
$RENTAL$TREE$! |
NEW |
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Formula 500, 121 |
94.5
HP
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6,400KM |
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ZL
500 , 121 |
94HP |
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5,000KM |
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Indy Trail
488, 121 |
55HP |
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SuperSport488,121 |
55HP |
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NEW
1200KMs |
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SL
500,121 |
55HP |
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MXZ440,121 |
50HP |
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LE 440,
136 |
50HP |
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Z
440
, 121 |
50HP |
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XT 500,121 |
90HP |
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15,000KM |
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Indy 500,121 |
74
HP |
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NEW
5,000KMs |
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Formula 500,121 |
94HP |
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ZL 440,121 |
94HP |
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IndyTrail
488, 121 |
55HP |
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SuperSport488,121 |
55HP |
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SL500,121
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55HP |
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VMax 600 ,121 |
94
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4,100KM |
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SLS 500, 121 |
89
HP |
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Indy Trail 488, |
55HP |
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SL 500 ,
121 |
55HP |
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Indy 440,121 |
65HP |
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14,500KM |
Project |
11,000KM |
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SL500,121 |
55HP |
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SuperSport
440
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50HP |
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IIndyTrail
488,
121 |
55HP |
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Sport 440, 121 |
45HP |
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Sport 440, 121 |
45HP |
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Sport 440, 121 |
45HP |
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Sport 440
, 121 |
45HP |
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Phazer
485
,116 |
55HP |
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7,800KM |
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Project
4,300KM |
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Lite GT 340, 133 |
35HP |
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16,000KM |
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16,000KM |
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6,500KM |
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4,354KM |
Lite 340, 116 |
35HP |
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14,354KM |
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13,500KM |
Lite 340, 116 |
35HP |
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14,354KM |
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15,654KM |
Lite 340, 116 |
35HP |
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14,354KM |
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14,354KM |
Excel V 540,116 |
50HP |
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92-03 |
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Excel V 540, 116 |
50HP |
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92-03 |
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SS
540, 116 |
54HP |
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Project |
SS
540, 116 |
54HP |
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92-03 |
Project |
SS
440, 116 |
48HP |
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92-03 |
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EX
440, 116 |
45HP |
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EX
440, 116 |
45HP |
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92-03 |
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EX
440, 116 |
45HP |
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92-03 |
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STX
440, 116 |
45HP |
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92-03 |
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440
SNOJET,116 |
60HP |
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Project |
Model |
H.P. |
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2019 |
2018 |
2017 |
2016 |
2015 |
2014 |
2013 |
2012 |
2011 |
2010 |
2009 |
2008 |
2007 |
2006 |
2005 |
2004 |
2003 |
2002 |
2001 |
2000 |
1999 |
1998 |
1997 |
1996 |
1995 |
1994 |
1993 |
1992 |
1991 |
Liquid
cooled |
Fan air
cooled |
Free air
cooled |
Twin cylinder |
Triple Cylinder |
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